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Smile_bitch_max50

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Posted about 1 month ago

 

Are their Any Fire Link Members Allowed to ride tailboard?

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

For me, that was a REALLY long time ago. I'm glad we don't anymore. We are not in town.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Nope not here in Oregon. OSHA forbids it.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Not in South Carolina!!!!

Smile_bitch_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Not in Pa either but we still have one Fire Co In Our County That Allows it.

Firecross2_max50

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Isn't it an NFPA standard that this has been outlawed? I thought it was. It went away many years ago, along with riding on the front bumper home made stand of a brush truck. I personally haven't seen anyone riding tailboard since the 60's. It is not even allowed in parades. There's no reason for it. Engines produced since the late 70's have 4-6 seating.


Jeff Draper
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I just took my 1152 class, and in our book (Essentials of Firefighting) it is forbidden.

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chase1 said:

Isn't it an NFPA standard that this has been outlawed? I thought it was. It went away many years ago, along with riding on the front bumper home made stand of a brush truck. I personally haven't seen anyone riding tailboard since the 60's. It is not even allowed in parades. There's no reason for it. Engines produced since the late 70's have 4-6 seating.

My last ride on the tailboard was in 1990. I do believe that it has been outlawed.

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Per NFPA, it is against regulation to ride the tailboard. However, there are still new engines being built that seat only two.



When I was first in the department way back in the mid-80s, we rode tailboard (though we did have safety straps) and I can remember pulling out of the station on those sub-freezing nights... BRRRRRRR!!

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That 1 co that you are talking about Sr? I don't think they do that anymore? I could be wrong on that, but it was their old tanker that they sold out .

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we did until around 1990 also. we have a ford cab on a pierce eng. 2 in the cab, 2 in the jump seats and 3 on the tailboard. I thought those were the good old days. still have the eng. but do not ride the tailboard any more. we also have a 1952 (I think that is the year) mack, no longer in service but it was in the 80s and first part of the 90s. had no chose but to ride the tailboard on that one.

Housefire_max50

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70s and late 80's here.

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Not here in AR

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I got to ride my first and last tailboard in the late 80's, as a recruitment ride, by the time
i was out of school it was no longer allowed.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Not allowed in Colorado. Although I did hear of a town in the Colorado mountains that still had some volunteer firefighters riding on tail boards.

Project2_max50

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stanley0566 says ...


That 1 co that you are talking about Sr? I don't think they do that anymore? I could be wrong on that, but it was their old tanker that they sold out .

I must say, I stand corrected! This date 5/03/08 at about 1230 hrs I watched an engine come around the corner in this town on an emergency response! One person was riding the tailboard, an EMT at that yet!

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Rated 0 | Posted 13 days ago

 

I did ride the tail board until the early 90's when the dept stopped us from riding after another dept. member fell off and was killed. I think about 2 years latter it was band.


Be safe
Buddy

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Granthamvfd says ...



I did ride the tail board until the early 90's when the dept stopped us from riding after another dept. member fell off and was killed. I think about 2 years latter it was band.



I'm thinking it was about the same for myself Buddy. 90 or 91 was about the last time I was on a tailboard

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Rated 0 | Posted 13 days ago

 

My dad and grandpa still talk about the near misses riding tail and some of the really old guys on my shift do to i think that they stopped sometime in the 80's however i wish i could do it just once to see what they saw standing back there. (with a safety strap) althogh we still have a engine in service that has rear facing jump seats with no seat belts and no safety bars it is way back line and never gets used.

Smile_bitch_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 12 days ago

 

Ok stanley on the comment I stand corrected  was this in our county ? SR

Project2_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 12 days ago

 

Yes Sir SR, One of our neighboring companys at the 4 way stop in town

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Rated 0 | Posted 12 days ago

 

This is not allowed in NH, and when I was in Alaska it was not allowed there either.  It still happened on very rare occasion, we were way the h*ll out there, in an old boys town, and some things wont change until the department is entirely restaffed.  Most of the guys would refuse to, but it happened from time to time.

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Rated 0 | Posted 11 days ago

 

 


It’s been close to 20 years since I rode a tail or side board except during a funeral.

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Rated 0 | Posted 11 days ago

 

I used to see guys riding the step back in my Junior Firefighter days, 1989-1992, but that was the only time I saw the back step occupied for calls.  After that, I used to see it a lot for fire truck rides during fire prevention week.  We would load the hose bed with families, and have 2-3 firefighters ride the step to make sure they were safe, but we only did 15-20 mph, and made a short loop through the village and back to the station.


The One thing you need to be careful about is with NFPA...They are guidelines only, and are not an "Official" rule.  Its OSHA that you have to check for the actual "Law". A lot of laws stem from NFPA guidelines, but they are not "Enforceable" laws so to speak.  (I think!!)


 


 


 


Brian "Moose" Jones
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Rated 0 | Posted 10 days ago

 

Depending on the city and the time frame, I wouldnt want to.  I had a friend who used to be with FDNY ( old salt), who talked about in the late sixties and early seventies gang members, and kids being up on the roofs of buildings and throwing bricks at teh truck, sometimes catching the guy on the side-board.  He used to talk about them throwing trashcans full of ash and sand as well.  One of his friends had been riding sideboard, leaned out to get a better view, and lost his grip, falling off in front of the ladder truck. 

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 days ago

 

 


Oh hell. I remember those days. The sanitation workers were on strike and the dumb a$$es saw anyone who worked for the city as the same. They would pile, I mean pile up the trash at one end of the street knowing the responding trucks would come in the other end and light it up. Someone would pull the Box at the corner. The old Tillers back then were open cabs. They had to improvise a roof out of ¾ “ plywood with 2 sheets of Plexiglas for the rear driver.  I remember one time a punk was running along side of the Tiller with a brick in his hand trying to throw it at the driver. The rear driver reached down and grabbed the haligan and started swing it. Dick caught this mook in the back of the head. The mook did a flip in the air. We all thought Dick killed this a—hole. The mook jumps up off the street, shakes his head and runs away. Damn there heads are thick.

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Rated 0 | Posted 10 days ago

 

Well Sandy, I suppose since you remember those days, I should be sorry for calling him an old salt.  Sorry, just the twenty-six year old in me showing through .    Would you by chance have known Andy Desperito?  I can't fire the life of me remember what company he was with now though

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moosecfd368 says ....



The One thing you need to be careful about is with NFPA...They are guidelines only, and are not an "Official" rule.  Its OSHA that you have to check for the actual "Law". A lot of laws stem from NFPA guidelines, but they are not "Enforceable" laws so to speak.  (I think!!)


  


 



NFPA guideline are a very tricky thing. While they are only recommendations and are not "law" in and of themselves, many states have chosen to adopt NFPA regulations, which then give them the force of law.

Additionally, even if they're not law, when someone is injured or killed, lawyers will bring up NFPA and question the defendant as to why they didn't follow the recommendations of "experts" in their field, making NFPA regs akin to "expert testimony."

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silverwulf says ...



Well Sandy, I suppose since you remember those days, I should be sorry for calling him an old salt.  Sorry, just the twenty-six year old in me showing through .    Would you by chance have known Andy Desperito?  I can't fire the life of me remember what company he was with now though



 


No, but there are as many Italians as Irish now a days. Me, I’m the minority. I’m Swiss. I moved south 12 years ago. I do have a nephew in Little Italy 20 Ladder.

Grayling-fire_max50

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our department has not allowed this since about 1985. but some of the stories sound like it was preatty interesting to do in the winter.