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Pleasework_max50

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Posted about 1 month ago

 

Kind of a dumb question. I have an issue with breathing through my mouth and consuming an SCBA bottle quickly. When we are just walking or doing hose with the SCBA's I am fine but when we go inside I can't help but mouth breathe. Does anyone have any suggestions how to slow my breathing and to train myself to breathe through my nose? Thanks.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

May sound crazy. But, try doing your cardio training while wearing an airpack. Make it a little tougher by wearing the face piece. Tougher still by actually breathing air from the bottle.


It worked for me. And I lost some weight, which helped even more.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

well time will help you the most. Work at it think about how your breathing it take time to train yourself to do things that you would normally not do    plus when you are just doing normal work watch how you breath change that up too. It is a better way to breath all together so just think about what your doing and teach your body to do it all the time. you will get there we all have.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

When I started in the service, I immediately started to read about skip breathing and how to breathe.  I then applied it to the way I breathe.  I try to always breathe through my nose and I practice skip breathing all the time.  I agree with Tsmith, if you are having a problem with it then you may need to do some exercise with it on.  I have read that that helps.

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And skip breathing is? Sorry. I've only been in the dept 4 months now. My instructor in Firefighter 1 thought I had a phobia of the mask but the problems I had there with the SCBA turned out to be a faulty valve. I wasn't getting enough air. Do you think maybe I am holding on to the thought that I am not getting air? It drives me crazy because I am only getting about 23 minutes out of a 30 minute bottle. And I don't ever want to get into the situation that I couldn't help save someone or myself because I can't slow my breathing down and consume less air.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

TSmith gave a good idea. Do cardio in SCBA, and focus on your breathing. Practice controlled breathing, which is slow-deep breaths. You would think that deep breaths would consume more air, but, let's have a quick physiology lesson.


The breathing reflex is triggered by the presence of carbon dioxide ( co2 ) in you respiratory tract ( ever seen sponge divers or free divers appears to be hyper-ventilating before ascent ) what they are doing is flushing the co2  from their lungs so that the breath reflex will not be as quickly triggered. I do not recommend this, as practiced un-safely it can lead to dizziness and unconciousness.


But, what I, as a firefighter,  do is take SLOW deep breaths, and displace as much co2 as possible with each breath, this causes the breath reflex to be triggered less frequently, and thus uses less air. It is safe, I've done it for years, and use less air than ( a lot less ) some guys 1/2 my age. Granted they are less experienced and excitement will cause you to breath faster.


Short-shallow breath leave more co2 in your system and you breath much more rapidly. Your legs use more oxygen than any other muscle group, keep this in mind during your work-out, and your actual use.


I hope this helps. With time and practice, you'll definitely improve.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

As a Firefighter I and II Instructor I try and put the firefighter students in SCBA as many times in a day as possible.  I usually have them working on donning PPE and SCBA a number of times every day of the academy.  Afterwards I have them walk the campus in full PPE and SCBA and use up an entire bottle.   We record their time and they get the feel of how the extra weight affects their endurance and balance.   After the first day we start the crawl phase where they crawl down hallways and up and down stairs.  Again we record their time.  Each day we add something to the SCBA practice session like a piece of equipment to use or an obstacle to overcome.  It is amazing on how their confidence grows and their abilities multiply!  By the end of the academy the students are able to breech walls and move through confined spaces with the SCBA, by removing the tank with the mask in place and pushing it though the openings and then donning the tank again.  On a 2216 psi/30 minute tank most of the students are averaging well over 40 minutes and all students over 35 minutes of strenuous activity.  Again it is all practice and experience!  Good Luck!!

Frog_pic_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

I am a bird breather. I can dive an hour and a half on 3000 psi and for 45 minutes and still come up with 1000- 1350 psi, sometimes more of less. When we go SAR training  trailer I can go 2 times on 1- 4500 psi bottle and still have 500-1000 psi.  This may sound funny but practice humming. Lay on your back and  take a deep breath to your diaphram. Let the air out slowly and while you are humming. Making sure your mouth is close and you are feeling the vibration on the roof of your mouth and the air passing thru your nose. Same as metered breathing when you sing to get to the long notes just with humming and nose air instead. Also cardio exercise, bicycling, swimming and jump rope.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Hum your favorite song or sing it in your head,,, Froogsey read my mind.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

i use up my air faster than people twice my weight...i have a fast metabolism and thus am prone to heat stress.  also am a mouth breather because of allergies.  even kung fu breathing methods don't really help when your sinuses are clogged all the time.  but despite it all, i love being in Level A.  makes me feel like i'm accomplishing something.

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

I agree with captain50. im on a burn team so its really importaint to get as much out of a bottle as possible. You really have to stop and think of how your breathing slow deep breaths. Tell your self that when you have your scba on. The best way i can put it is if you get to do any live burns and you can go in with a team be that third person sit back  relax and just take that extra ten seconds and think about your breathing. Think of it like you were couching a asthma pat.


Good luck and be safe!

Pleasework_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Thank you very much to those who took the time to answer my question. They were all great suggestions and I will try them all and see what works best for me. Thanks again.