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Firefighter_1_max50

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Posted about 1 year ago

 

Hello every one, I want to ask everyone’s opinion on setting up a Toyota as a brush truck. Recently we received a grant from the Texas Forestry Service for a small brush truck. We are thinking about some thing real small. A Toyota, it has to be capable of handling 200 gallons of water. I found an air bag system that will get my payload were I need it. Is there any others that have experience with similar situations?

Firecross2_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

Are these air bags self leveling? 200 gallons is not going to last long at all, unless you are running a CAFS unit.


Jeff Draper
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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

All of the brush trucks in our area are between 200 and 300 gallons in this area. I can get the self leveling kits if that is what we think we need.

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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

Not sure how they work on smaller units. We have a 3200 gallon tanker with air ride and it is dangerous due to self leveling that is out of time with conditions. Would investigate it heavily before using that.


Jeff Draper
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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

brant said:

Hello every one, I want to ask everyone’s opinion on setting up a Toyota as a brush truck. Recently we received a grant from the Texas Forestry Service for a small brush truck. We are thinking about some thing real small. A Toyota, it has to be capable of handling 200 gallons of water. I found an air bag system that will get my payload were I need it. Is there any others that have experience with similar situations?

I had a 04 toyota tundra excelent 4 x4 capabilities and is a little bigger yet not a true full size truck this might be a better option than using air bags to compensate for the lower capacity they are truly very tough vehicles I have had several toyota's and all survived my abuse for at least 200,000 miles

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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

There is a company called JAK-PAK that builds poly units. All of the tanks are guaranteed for life. They have one that is made for a pick-up 200 gal. it’s a skid and the tank is spread out over the entire bed. It comes with roll front cabinets on both sides and it is a unitized unit. the cabinets come over the pick-up side. It’s pretty cool. We bought a low profile box poly tank with foam cell (6 gal.) foam inductor with a pump and reel. 200 gal. skid unit (about $8,200) on a F350 crew cab dually 4X4 flat bed. We have 1 ½ pre-connect that lasts about 15 min. On the booster line we have a forestry nozzle. It has a dial on the side and switches from a heavy fog to a stream. I think it runs about 5-10 gal. minute. It works great for field/hay fires. HAVE NOT HAD ANY TRUE WILDFIRES. Do not know if I would trust it. That’s why we have the pre-connect. With the forestry nozzle we get about 30 – 45 min. on 200 gal. Note: you will need an adaptor to marry to booster line. Nozzle has federal threads.
On the F350 we had to add 2 leaf springs. We did try the air bags. NOT TOO GOOD.
Also, think about heat, flames, pressurized rubber. I’m not too sure.


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Firescue_max50

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Rate This | Posted 9 months ago

 

Toyota Tacoma is one of the finest vehicles in the world. I have seen them do 225,000 miles in the oilfields and still run strong! They are hard working vehicles and are extremely durable too.


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Rate This | Posted 8 months ago

 

No way to get the Tacoma to carry that much water, even with helper springs, air bags, etc. all of which will cause it to go over its GVWR, violating NFPA and TFS regulations.

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Rate This | Posted 8 months ago

 

You will need to find out what the pay load is and the gear ratio. I also would just buy the cab and chassis and put a flat bed on it, for ease of pump maintenance/use. I am not sure if a V-6 will handle the weight of the water and all the gear it will need to be classified as a brush truck.

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Rate This | Posted 6 months ago

 

200 gallons of water isn't going to be enough water

Rod_truck_max50

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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

If we had to get a small brush truck, I would look into getting a 1/2 ton truck with a shortbed. You can get helper springs to level it if you like. I know it is bigger but the GVWR is greater and will be safer. I agree with tvfd502 about GVWR not being high enough for your set up.  You might run into very important safety issues with that much water. Good luck with your project and stay safe.


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Rodney Spires
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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

200 gallons of water is around 1600 pounds of just water weight not including tank/pump/hose/hose reel.  While I am a huge Tacoma fan that is just too much weight for that chassis.  Our department uses 200 and 300 gallon tanks (with baffles) mounted on a specially designed bed on a F350 chassis.  The pump system gives us higher pressure and low volume usage and has a foam injector if needed which gives us about 5 to 8 minutes of firefighting time at a Wildland Fire before refilling at a Tanker/Tender.  We use smaller tank sizes so our trucks are able to cross the bridges in our area. 


Eddie D. Howard
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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

one of the departments around where i live got a dodge ram 2500 4x4 dually. it was custom built to their specifications. i dont no wat kind of equipment and everything they have on it. but i have seen that truck go through hell and back without a problem. they also made a seat that attaches to the hitch on the back end... from what i have seen and from what their firefighters tell me its a damn good rig

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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

Just thought I would add. Ford,Chevy,Dodge.