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SCBA Types
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Posted 11 months ago Since their are many styles of SCBA's, what do you use and do you like it? which do you pefer? |
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| Posted 11 months ago The department i'm with uses survivair. Its ok, but the gauge on the tank and the gauge on the heads up might be off alot, alsoit seams that the first stage reg. could be dammaged easly. I pefer scott and the new MSA face pice with the clip that hold the reg so you can have it ready just not it and know where it is. |
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| Posted 11 months ago Scott 2.2 Love them. I love the fact that a water bottle fits just right in the face piece so I don't have to take it off for a drink. |
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| Posted 11 months ago We have ISI high pressure bottles. They work good, have a nice LED- red, yellow, green display in the mask, a buddy air 2 way line, and a radio tie in plug. The only thing I don't like is the quick disconnect is down the hose, and not at the mask. Jeff Draper
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| Posted 11 months ago We use MSA CBRN low pressure and have no complaints about the units. They work very well!! |
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| Posted 11 months ago Through the years I have used ISI, Scott, MSA, and Survivair. Demand and positive pressure. Multiple models of some brands. Currently, we use a Survivair model. Personally, as long as the air comes out, I'm happy. The largest room is the room for self improvement |
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| Posted 8 months ago We just put our new Scott 4.5 high pressure's into service that we got from DHS grant. They were an upgrade from the Scott 2.2 metal cylinders. What a difference. Ross Caston
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| Posted 7 months ago My department use Survivair and I service them as well. I also work on MSA and I would rather have the MSA in my department. Reason being is that they are much easier to do the maintenance on. I also like that the MSA has the rescue belt and no other brand does. The speaking diaphram is great in the MSA you dont have to have the amplifier on for others to hear you. The survivair are great and have no complaints, I just like the ease of the MSA. I do a POSI quick test on our survivair every quarter and a complete every year. Most of the time they are out of calibration within the first quarter and readjusting is needed. On the MSA packs I work on I POSI once a year and very rare do I need to do maintenance on the 2nd or the 1st stage regs. We use to have the SCOTT 2.2 and I am glad we are out of them. I have had to replace a lot of shields because of the regulator config. I also do not like that there is no cross contamination protection between the masks and regs. I also have sucked up some debree that got in the reg from rubbing on my turnouts while bottle changing. Have never had that happen with MSA or Survivair. |
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| Posted 6 months ago I just bought new MSA CBRN low pressure SCBA's. I love them and my FF's love them also. The are the only one I could find that had the rescue belt built into the waist strap. |
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| Posted 6 months ago My dept. is all ISI. We have a few Magnums and Vikings left, all 2216 psi. We are in the process of getting new packs through a FEMA grant. They will be the new ISI sevens in 4500 psi. I haven't had any problems with any of them. Donald Bramer
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| Posted 4 months ago Scott AP50 with carbon fiber 45-minute bottles and the AV-3000 mask with the voice amplifier. Each firefighter is issued his own mask, plus there's one for each pack on the truck (sans the amp). |
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| Posted 4 months ago Scott 4.5's with the AV-2000 mask. They are light, durable, and you can use them as a self rescue device if you have rope. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Our department just recently switched from the Drager Airboss 4500 PSI packs to the Scotts 4.5 packs which comply with the 2007 NFPA requirements. Our department feels the switch was one of the better things to do, not because the packs are more technicological but the fact that the packs are move comfortable, easier to use and are overall better for the use on the fireground. Couple of things we found that were a good change from the Dragers to the Scotts is that with the Dragers you would have SCREAM just to hear to other people when on air. However now with the Scott's you don't have to scream but just talk normally to be able to hear anyone with the mask on and breathing air. If you add the voice amplifiers your voice is even projected even better but unfortunately not all the green tags were issues voice amps and only the rigs were so alot of us forget our voice amps. So this is an awesome change. Another thing that helped us change from the Dragers to the Scotts was that with the dragers there was only one way to buddy breath and that mean you have to disconnect the regulator and the regulator turbing was in loops which made it hard to remove it from the pack to plug into your partners. The 7.5's now have two methods to buddy breath through the new connection that NFPA 2007 requires and the fact that the regulator tubing is not connected to the pack except on the back harness. Therefore the buddy breathing has improved alot. The only thing that we are not really liking is the new type of bottle valves where you have to PUSH in the valve in order to turn it. But overall the pro's beat the con's. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago We went from MSA to Scott packs. Personally, I like Scott's better. Not to mention it's easier to donn the mask
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| Posted about 1 month ago We have the Scott Fifty's 2.2/4.5 Air packs. Couple years ago we looked into going to MSA and we still decided to stay with Scott. Very little issues and we were already comfortable with them. We have about 35 air packs and 70 bottles so it would of been a huge expense to switch to MSA at the time. We had 5 survivairs for a few years as a trial and we got rid of them because of many many issues.
Keith Badler
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| Posted 20 days ago Right now our department is using Scott air packs. No gadgets on the pack itself, and 4500 PSI 30 Min bottles. Not bad. The regulator was the Thermos variety, with an open hole in the front of the mask. I'm sure most of you guys have seen that. PASS was either the orange box with the dial or a Dragonfly with the pesky clip that always came undone when you were packing up at 2 am in the rig going 60.
But I have a new ISI mask sitting in my gear locker right now. Our department wrote a grant for new air packs a while ago and got it. After shopping around, getting bids, trying stuff out, the air pack committee muttered something about ISI being better than Scott and MSA. They didn't give the chief the final Regis-style answer, and he went with the best deal for the money. We now have all-new ISI packs for our apparati (at least forty packs on the rigs, then several others for replacement/rotation and training). These are pretty things. The packs have the buddy-breather 3-ft line that can be daisy-chained, LED lights on the back of the pack itself, built-in PASS that activates on charging the system with air or pushing the panic button, and a RIT or hot-fill connection. The masks are the elephant trunk style, with built-in microphone, large bypass dial on the front, and the switch you drop or raise for bottle air or outside air. One of the big changes is connecting the mask to the pack before you charge the system, otherwise you're fighting the low pressure to connect. We'll be operating with 4500 PSI 45 Min bottles with some spare 30 Min for other operations like air-baggin' (or we'll sell them).
Everyone's hope is, with all the money the top echelon sinks into packs and equipment, the stuff will last and remain in good quality... |
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| Posted 20 days ago i run with 3 different companies, one company we have quite old scotts, i believe there 2.2's another company we have new scotts, 4.5's and my primary company we have M.S.A's, truthfully i dont know the pressure on those, i like the M.S.A's best, they have the voice amplifier which makes it so much nicer for radio communication, the old scotts are much heavier and we get a few complaints from some people, and the M.S.A's are the only packs i've seen with the buddy breathers, i've heard scott has them, and that there quite difficult to get at doing interior but havent seen one, if anyone's seen scotts with buddy breathers, how are they? |
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| Posted 20 days ago Survivair was recenlty implicated in a lawsuit for crappy equipment. Two FF died while using them. I dont' know if it was improper use but, instead of going to court and fighting, they settled for 20 million. Makes me wonder if they knew their SCBA's were shit? If you use survivair, be wary.. How do we live? Day by day sir. Day by day. |
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| Posted 19 days ago SCOTT!!! "Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal and took Iwo Jima. Bagdad ain't shit." "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem." United States Marine Corps |
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| Posted 19 days ago scott the scott mask do not fog up as easy as other brands www.granthamvfd.com |